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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby Luksis » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:13 pm

jack1974 wrote:Haha you're not the first person to ask that! But I am not planning to add that for the expansion, sorry - this because of how the game was designed. Since your character is the best healer, and the "Hero" is the specialization class, would mean that as mage you would have only the Mage basic class (so no offensive spells either). I could hack in something, but there are other issues like the fact that Mages don't have high defense/HP so they would die rather quickly in one vs one combat, so I would need to retest all the battles :oops: (there are some parts where you must fight alone or with Loren only, and as Mage I think would be hard to win those battles)
But in future games will surely allow more freedom. The PC customization (both appearance and class/skills) will be one of my main focus on future RPGs! :)


Hm you could think of a class which is no pure mage. With the amazon background I could think of a battle mage with high defense and attack. Abillitys could be enchanting of allys weapons to cause elemental damage and a small possibillity for an ailment, magic armor to either give protection or damage attacking foes, an abillity to lenghten an existing ailment or buff (ailment for enemys and buff for allys, though i don't know if it would be complicated to implement these two possibilitys within one skill, programming wise). Or a skill to temporarilly increase attack power, critical hit chance or accuracy.
I think i could actually come up with pretty much cool abillitys :D (no wonder i always loved battle mages in any game i could play them XD)
This kind of battle mage would be in fact some merge of a thief and a mage, providing ample strenght to fight alone as well as in a team. So you wouldnt have to retest all the battles. (btw i would volunteer for beta-testing without a second thought :D)
Of course you can take my blabbering as inspiration for this expansion or another expansion or a newe game... whatever is fine with me ^^. Or leave it out altogether :D

As a last word... i am so going to get the expansion and your next game(s) should there be some :D

Oh and before i forget it: Beeing a monk doesn't neccessarilly mean they have a celibacy or anything like that^^. Most times they just keep to themselves, effectivly making a relationship pretty much unlikely. No reason to absolutely give up on romance for a monk though ;)
Now that was really everything :D
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby jack1974 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:17 pm

The problem is not coming up with ideas for skills or coding it, but is time :) The expansion has already a lot of content to be tested, and beside I'm pretty sure that if I add a new class now, I WILL need to retest the game. Is quite easy to screw the balancing of the game (beta testers who played the game in the first 2 months know it well). And I'm not a fan of last-minute additions since I prefer to plan things well. But since you're not the only one asking for a battlemage, will surely take that in consideration when making the next RPGs, be it Loren's sequel or a different world/story.
About the monks yes, you're right in general, but in this specific case one of the main problems is also I don't have the artwork for the romance CGs, and they wouldn't be done in time for sure for the expansion release date! :oops:
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby Luksis » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:03 pm

Just stating some ideas :D, i tend to run my mouth if i have some.^^
And currently the game is good too, with or without the battlemage. I would even say it is great.
And the monk thingy... again i was just giving my opinion where no one asked me to :D (I mostly play only male characters since i am male myself and since im not gay ... kina needless for me to have the monk romance^^)
Additionally im not exactly ecperienced in making a game :D so yeah ^^
Just do your thing, your dooing great atm *thumbs up* ^^

and now i shut up and wait for the expansion without writing a novel about my opinions :D
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby jack1974 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:36 am

Haha no problem, I like suggestions. I was just being clear about what the expansion would contain to avoid misunderstandings :)
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby Luksis » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:05 am

Now you seriously did it :D i just completed the main game with saren... this end is epic^^
Honestly this is one of the best rpg's i ever played. and i played lot's of them :D
Though i have to admit i'm a bit biased since i really love playing VN's and missed the kind of story and charackter developement often found in jrpg's or VN's in our western style games like skyrim, gothic etc.
well, with you making those games now i guess i can die happy xD

But back to topic:
I skimmed over the thread and wondered if the expansion conten is placed only within the main plot (e.g chapter 2 and so to recruit the new chars) or if there is also additional plot content after the main game ended.
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby jack1974 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:29 am

Thanks for the compliments :)
Luksis wrote:But back to topic:
I skimmed over the thread and wondered if the expansion conten is placed only within the main plot (e.g chapter 2 and so to recruit the new chars) or if there is also additional plot content after the main game ended.

Well 99% is placed within the main plot, but there is an extra surprise at the ending (it's not fixed anymore but can change). Also, I'm going to retweak the final battle with Fost since if you play the expansion you'll be higher level.
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby Luksis » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:14 am

interesting approach. Guess that will make the game experience rather different from the playthrough. Especially with the Overhaul of the mages. ohh cant wait till it is out :D
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby tnek89 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:01 am

So is they're going to be a mage class for Saren and Elenor in the expansion? I never got a complete answer. XD :)
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby jack1974 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:09 am

Sorry, no.
The above is a complete answer :lol:
As said, not because I don't want/think is bad, but because I want to have the expansion out in a reasonable amount of time. But I'm taking notes of all people's requests in this thread, and will apply them to Loren's sequel or other possible RPGs. The most requested features are: play all classes of the game, customize your character, more CG scenes.
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Re: The expansion thread!

Postby narutochatsrcool » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:04 pm

Am super excited for the expansion (like everone else!!) This looks like it's gonna be really good, and i can't wait to play it!! Your efforts won't go to waste, (Atleast not by me!) because I'm going to play this game until there's nothing left for me to play!! Play character plots, recruit extra characters, go through the castle, everything!! Haha, I sound crazy, but I'm just so excited! Thank you for taking the time to make this game, and this expansion!! (Thank you all especially for Mesphit~! <3) I know making VNs and RPGs must be tedious and tiring, especially because its both an RPG and VN. I really appreciate the hard work and effort you all put into this, and I have to say, this is by far the best RPG (and VN!) game I've played yet! :) I Love the storyline, (That's what I enjoy most in games I play) and the battle system is very well thought up!! Usually when I play RPG games, after a while, the battles just bore me out and i just start pushing buttons, and I don't get in a fight unless I have to. But with this game, I take on every random encounter I get, and take on extra battles if I can, because I really enjoy how the battle system works!! The whole skill tree and the leveling up is amazing as well, and I also can't wait to see Mesphit's transformation thing!! Oh, and don't let me forget the art and characters!!! AMAZING art, love the backgrounds, and how the characters are drawn/created!! (The guys....omg! <3) And I really like the personality of the characters, and I like how it's very realistic, as in, they stay to their characters, and act like they would. (Even if that means that Rei wants to kill everything in his path! xD) You guys deserve WAYYYYY more than what you get, and I'm really happy that I have the opportunity to play this game! :) (I've sounded like a suck-up this whole time, haven't I? xD) Oh, and one thing though - if it's possible, could you guys put up the names of the voice actors for the characters? I already know that Cristina Vee sung the theme song, and she's a talented person as always!! :D (That song really fit too, BTW xD) So special thanks to her and Matt Myers! But I actually really enjoyed the characters voicing as well and I thought they fit the characters perfectly, even if it was just inside battle :) I almost died laughing when I heard Rei say, "Boom! Headshot" xD :lol: That was great! Haha, I've always enjoyed you guy's games, and I can't wait to see more great things coming from you in the future! Well, hope you all have a wonderful day!! :mrgreen:

Oh, and I know constructive criticism always helps you guys out, but I can't really say I have any!! Maybe I'm just not very picky, (or I really AM a suck-up!) but I really enjoyed every element of your games! Maybe, like someone else suggested, more CG art between the characters for future games? That honestly doesn't bother me in the slightest bit, but if I'd have to choose anything, that'd be it. xS Even if there wasn't any, I would still enjoy your games!! Haha, well, I've been rambling for forever now, so I'm just gonna go....xD Thanks again for everything you guys do! I hope you guys know that it's very appreciated!!
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