SOTW 0.8.24.18 - Second Act Beta!

[renke_]

is it reproducable? I see this quite often but was never able to give Jack a clear path so he can see it - and in my experience it's not always an identical image, bow to crossbow was my first contact with this one

[jack1974]

Sorry was publishing Heileen 3 on Steam and there was some issue with wrong pricing

Just for the record, Autoleveling sounds like something that should be exclusive to Easy Mode. Maybe Normal. Definitely not Hard or Nightmare. My nightmares don't include people handing me free XP.

Yes true, Hard/Nightmare players don't need that choice! I mean, they can just change the difficulty in options to see it, but normally they shouldn't even see it
And no worries I would never LOWER a level, it's lame!

somewhere here(tm) you wrote that all short cuts are disabled for the first visit as this lead to problems with the new location found trigger. You forgot one: Kiduu to Galanna is still there on the first visit

addendum: also Galanna to Gamesh

Ah yes, but those should still be fine I think. Anyway, I'll exclude them from the first visit

and some nit-picking: Optional guard battles shouldn't be announced with "Mercs! And they are attacking!" (and similar) - I stepped on the field because it was my wish to rip them open and loot the cadavers

I'll replace that with Shea screaming "YUM... FRESH MEAT!"

is it reproducable? I see this quite often but was never able to give Jack a clear path so he can see it - and in my experience it's not always an identical image, bow to crossbow was my first contact with this one

Yes renke reported it already in the first act, but I wasn't able to reproduce. Your guide seems good, if you happen to have a save in which you think you can do it, could you please send to me? It's one of those bastard bugs that are SUPER HARD to fix

[renke_]

I still think it's a race condition somewhere hidden in the framework and not an out-right bug you can fix yourself. afaik Lonestar51 is also a Linux user - so there are chances that this one is related to the platform-specific implementation of renpy.

good luck ;)

[fabulaparva]

I use Windows, seen it once with bracers, but couldn't reproduce it at the time. And I don't know what on earth I did at the time except that I thought I was buying one set of rare bracers at the Galanna district shop and got out of there with 3 characters having them equipped.

EDIT: I first thought I had accidentally clicked at the slider from 1 to two (I was flipping between two windows a the time), but as I later saw that *3* of them had them equipped...

[Lonestar51]

I still think it's a race condition somewhere hidden in the framework and not an out-right bug you can fix yourself. afaik Lonestar51 is also a Linux user - so there are chances that this one is related to the platform-specific implementation of renpy.

good luck

Race condition bugs happen to show themselves somtimes - and sometimes not. This bug seems so far to appear predictably, which means race condition is unlikely. Which is good, as it makes finding it easier - hopefully. But it very easily might be somewhere in the framework of RenPy, where Linux behaves just a little bit different. That would be "one of those bastard bugs".

Yes renke reported it already in the first act, but I wasn't able to reproduce. Your guide seems good, if you happen to have a save in which you think you can do it, could you please send to me? It's one of those bastard bugs that are SUPER HARD to fix

I have sent you a save.

[jack1974]

Thanks got the save. Considering the nature of Renpy / python I don't think is an OS specific bug honestly. Could be either a stupid bug on my part, or some well hidden problem in which case I'll have to cast the spell "Summon The Spirit Of Anima The Debugger" which is rumored to fix the most obscure of bugs!

[renke_]

This bug seems so far to appear predictably

how often did you try your 2-step-method described above? imho the cloning is not reproducable

[Lonestar51]

This bug seems so far to appear predictably

how often did you try your 2-step-method described above? imho the cloning is not reproducable

In the save I sent jack, I have bought a hat maybe 7-8 times (twice before sending, the rest just now) - and every time the hat gets cloned. In my experience the stuff gets cloned if the same picture, but not if different picture. (With same pic it seems pretty reliable buggy - and possibly if not the same pic it might happen as well, but I just have not paid attention enough.)

[jack1974]

I haven't tried yet, since I'm relaxing now. Will try tomorrow morning my time

edit:OK well, I tried and indeed happens every time. But will try to debug tomorrow! is really a weird bug!

[Anima_]

That's probably a problem with the RPGFramework and the random equipment generation. Since we keep only one reference object per ID and some items could have the same ID but different values it would change the values for all items of that ID depending on which object was kept as a reference. I'd need to take a closer look at the code, since the randomization was Jacks per project.