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Lol, yeah, I see the problem. It's a tricky one.


EDIT:

yayswords wrote:

fabulaparva wrote:How about: "I also know that it's very expensive. And it requires great skill to be able to aim it correctly."

Didn't want to imply it would require a certain attribute to be high

Maybe...
"And it requires a careful aim so you won't spill it over yourself."

And while we are on the Kiduu family quest, during the dungeon crawl, Riley says this:
I'd use the expression "with brute force" instead of "with normal weapons" It feels like less of an immersion-breaking, imho.
(and there's also that tiny typo "wille" => "will")

Hmm, I don't think the original quote is bad. What's wrong with calling their weapons normal weapons?

Probably just a personal opinion, but "a normal weapon" just sounds too "user's manual" to me in this case. Or maybe I was expecting some smartypants character to open their mouth and say, "But I have an ABnormal weapon!" Anyways, Riley's trying to shine with magic as opposed to Krimm's brutal methods, so I thought he'd like to allude that his subtle/magical methods are better than that in this case.

EDIT: Nitpicking thread this is, indeed.

OK thanks, just came back from some errands, fixed the texts, also that won't show up every time you visit!

From the MAin Thread:

jack1974 wrote:

yayswords wrote: Having replayed the steam tunnel intro and been reminded of just how the lizardmen ended up there, I find myself a bit more sympathetic to gamesempie's side of the argument. Even if perhaps "innately monstrous", they're still just escaped slaves

Ah yes. Maybe I should add something to justify that. I think is better to make it so player is FORCED to go on (maybe something Riley did collapsed the entrance so they're stuck there) AND the lizardmen are hostile against party. If anyone wants to suggest some texts for this is welcome

Putting this here, in case someone wants to elaborate, suggest something else or nitpick on this. And after all, this is plot nitpicking. this is merely crude framework. If you think it's good enough, it can be edited, etc.

I think both are good. But perhaps we could add some lines about how walking over the vents could keep the party out of trouble. One of the twins could argue they should do that (because the lizardmen aren't there by choice), and Krimm could argue they should fight - not hard to find reasons for her to say that. And this could be part of the "use every excuse to start a fight" vs. "avoid violence" achievements :D

Krimm: Says the one who's never using two-handed weapons.
Chalassa: Oh I didn't think of that.
Vaelis: We'd best all use one-handed weapons only. Down here, there's not enough room to use something large.

I think these lines are wrong on several levels though so I'm taking the chance to nitpick them now. Firstly I think two-handed vs. one-handed weapon definitions are too "techy" and specific. But the larger problem is how they're talking as if they're expecting combat. I don't think Riley gave me the impression that there would be fighting.

Krimm: Says the one swinging glorified utensils.
Chalassa: Hehe! Is the whole world a battlefield to you?
Vaelis: It never hurts to be prepared. I hope we have some smaller weapons. (still not happy with this line)

Mr. Weaver could refine these, not sure the Chalassa line is characteristic enough for example. Either way it doesn't need to painfully clear that two-handers will suck because you will notice it in your first battle: Less damage, and a debuff on the whole party. And if such a penalty is absolutely devastating to you, let's hope you saved

Also, I checked the new dialogue for buying Clearmind Potions. My only remaining complaint is that the servant doesn't look very happy to see us during the short version

Spoke with writer, there's a problem with the "collapse" thing:

Taleweaver by email wrote:Maybe give the steam tunnels a gate whose lock can only be picked from the outside (and snaps shut when the entrance gate is closed). I wouldn't go for "whoops, the tunnel has collapsed by an explosion" because this is happening in the middle of a city, in the part where the rich people live, and someone definitely WOULD care if a part of the streets suddenly collapsed.

And even if streets don't collapse, still a big noise would attract unwanted attention to the sauna that as you know is also used as a private place to speak about certain "affairs" by various kind of people...
So if you can write it like that, will be OK Can still be a mistake of Krimm just to make it funny!

Riley: Did someone block the grate? I remember it closed all the time without a stone in the frame.
Door: <clonk>
Krimm: <kills Riley>

Heh, a lock that Chalassa can't pick from inside and Krimm can't smash open. Reminds me of certain Grimoire situation with Dora. Although it provides a good opportunity to take a jab at Chalassa when she opens the lock just before the fire demon.
Didn't think of the street caving in, either... I guess even the starting point of the tunnels is at a central enough location (I mean, they do comment on how long the tunnels are) for that to be detrimental. Gotta think before I'll make another silly suggestion.