SOTW 1.0.87 - Bad Blood DLC

[ValHallen]

Spoiler:

How do I play the Lava Diving scene? The achievement popped but I dont see a way to see her scene
If I let the Council live I can get the power to the people achievement?
If I had played with Althea and Killed Deceit, it would be Jul who appeared? whats the difference between Jul and Deceit in the Blood Realm?

[jack1974]

Spoiler:

Lava diving should automatically play at end of game after the credits, you didn't see the scene ? I think the place where the achievements unlock is confusing indeed, it should happen at the beginning of it. In practice is just the scene with Morran and Riley, and Rowinda showing up at the end laughing, there's nothing else
Yes if council lives the battles to defend Ninim are different, if you manage to win using Ninim volunteers you'll get that achievement
And yeah if you killed Deceit in the main game, you would see Jul. Though the scene is basically the same, there are only a few differences.

[ValHallen]

Spoiler:

Lava diving should automatically play at end of game after the credits, you didn't see the scene ? I think the place where the achievements unlock is confusing indeed, it should happen at the beginning of it. In practice is just the scene with Morran and Riley, and Rowinda showing up at the end laughing, there's nothing else
Yes if council lives the battles to defend Ninim are different, if you manage to win using Ninim volunteers you'll get that achievement
And yeah if you killed Deceit in the main game, you would see Jul. Though the scene is basically the same, there are only a few differences.

Spoiler:

Yeah I got it, when I saw it I thought it would be a scene with Rowinda using the spell.
Whats the difference between letting the Council did and them living? Does it change the ending?
So does Jul tells you to kill Rowinda too? If she does, hopefully she remain sadistic in her romance path and doesn't change because of the player. I mean, why should she change? If the player wants to romance her, she/he should know she is not a good person, the player should either change for her or at least stomach her deeds. It would be nice to romance a real villain without any kind of redemption quest.

Here is another few questions:
1- What changes in the base game and in the expansion if Bear is alive?[
2- What happens if I choose to Althea to kill herself? Does it affect the ending?
Do the Shea and Krimm's twins have a name?

[jack1974]

Spoiler:

Lava diving should automatically play at end of game after the credits, you didn't see the scene ? I think the place where the achievements unlock is confusing indeed, it should happen at the beginning of it. In practice is just the scene with Morran and Riley, and Rowinda showing up at the end laughing, there's nothing else
Yes if council lives the battles to defend Ninim are different, if you manage to win using Ninim volunteers you'll get that achievement
And yeah if you killed Deceit in the main game, you would see Jul. Though the scene is basically the same, there are only a few differences.

Spoiler:

Yeah I got it, when I saw it I thought it would be a scene with Rowinda using the spell.
Whats the difference between letting the Council did and them living? Does it change the ending?
So does Jul tells you to kill Rowinda too? If she does, hopefully she remain sadistic in her romance path and doesn't change because of the player. I mean, why should she change? If the player wants to romance her, she/he should know she is not a good person, the player should either change for her or at least stomach her deeds. It would be nice to romance a real villain without any kind of redemption quest.

Here is another few questions:
1- What changes in the base game and in the expansion if Bear is alive?[
2- What happens if I choose to Althea to kill herself? Does it affect the ending?
Do the Shea and Krimm's twins have a name?

Spoiler:

Yes letting the council live changes the ending as well Though, why Shea should let them live? DIE BASTARDS! W Daronas! etc etc
About Jul romance I suppose you refer to Loren 2. Well, she wouldn't magically turn into an angel of course! But you need to consider that what she is doing is affected by the place she is. You can't be in the Blood Realm and behave friendly. So she might have been forced by the situation. Anyway, she behaves quite badly, and even in Loren 2 won't be a different person for sure. She might change though, like Loren herself changed from the slaver ice-queen to a somewhat more friendly person
About your other questions:
1- the change is only the intro texts, in any case Bear dies (accounting for him to be alive was too much effort and wouldn't justify the travel to spirit world)
2- Yes it affects the dialogues at the ending

Shea and Krimm twins... no I haven't thought anything for now. They might be part of some future stories. Two twins, half snow elves and half nomad? that's an interesting setup

[jack1974]

I've updated the game, though the main change is the typos. If someone finds any major typo/grammar issue let us know. By the way Artas is SUPPOSED to be talking badly, it's not an error

[ValHallen]

Spoiler:

Yes letting the council live changes the ending as well Though, why Shea should let them live? DIE BASTARDS! W Daronas! etc etc
About Jul romance I suppose you refer to Loren 2. Well, she wouldn't magically turn into an angel of course! But you need to consider that what she is doing is affected by the place she is. You can't be in the Blood Realm and behave friendly. So she might have been forced by the situation. Anyway, she behaves quite badly, and even in Loren 2 won't be a different person for sure. She might change though, like Loren herself changed from the slaver ice-queen to a somewhat more friendly person
About your other questions:
1- the change is only the intro texts, in any case Bear dies (accounting for him to be alive was too much effort and wouldn't justify the travel to spirit world)
2- Yes it affects the dialogues at the ending

Shea and Krimm twins... no I haven't thought anything for now. They might be part of some future stories. Two twins, half snow elves and half nomad? that's an interesting setup

Spoiler:

Loren was a ice-queen slaver? Never saw her that way, I think she is too hot blooded to be a ice-queen, to me she was more spoiled (a Amazon Clueless) snob brat, and about the slaver part, I cant fault her because her society is based on slavery, why she would question it? Loren only start to question it (Saren romance) when she see Saren helping other slaves, until then the only slave she freed was Saren.
In the end I dont think she changed her core, I think she matured, but stayed the headstrong, hot blooded, loyal Loren she was at the begining, and hopefully, if she was romanced by Saren, we can see her with the Amazon Prince in the sequel. Motherhood would really change her (like it changed Krimm <3) and the whole amazon society.
Jul can change, I just thought it would be more interesting for her to stay as a villain (but not in a antagonist role), but whatever the writer has in mind, it will be good.

And the twin arent half snow elves and half nomad, they are one quarter snow elves, one quarter shapeshifter and half nomad =P

[Taleweaver]

Spoiler:

And the twin arent half snow elves and half nomad, they are one quarter snow elves, one quarter shapeshifter and half nomad =P

Spoiler:

Sorry, the shapeshifter gene is recessive. Shea's and Krimm's children won't have any abilities from their grandmother's side.

[T. Bonne]

I seem to be unable to play the DLC. I've paid for it, but when I try to run the .exe it says I don't have permission and deletes itself. Am I doing this incorrectly?

[jack1974]

Hi, you're running the exe from INSIDE the .zip is a common mistake especially in Windows since seems you're browsing a folder. You need first to unzip the .zip content, and then click the SOTW.exe and will work!
Once the game is released will use a normal .exe installer, but for beta is easier to use the .zip.

[T. Bonne]

I've unzipped it, but am still getting the same error and deletion of the .exe.