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Re: about this game

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:13 pm
by Maelora
Thank you Jack, sleepykitten and Dejinyucu - you all rock! Thank you for being involved in these great games! I appreciate your talent and your hard work.

And yes, Jack has it right - I didn't mean to disrespect you and apologise if that's how it came across.

It's just that I know with some of the early WW games, some writers and artists were not comfortable writing or drawing gay relationships. (Apparently this was the case with Mass Effect too, as Tali was intended to be a Femshep relationship too, but the voice actress Liz Sroka didn't want to record the dialogue...)

As Jack mentions, Love & Order, Planet Stronghold & Heileen really only has 'two girl friendship' without depicting kissing or cuddling. The later games - Loren, Roommates - show clearly that it is a romantic relationship (for the gay guys as well as the lesbian couples).

And don't worry, I'm perfectly happy with romantic love :) I'm probably just a bit defensive because many shows use 'romantic two girl friendship' as a 'Hide Yours Gays' trope, rather than to illustrate tenderness or subtlety. I know you don't do it for those reasons and I appreciate your efforts.

Re: about this game

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:44 pm
by Sylrissa
Maelora explained it all very well, when we're subjected to shows/movies and games using that trope and others over and over again for many years, we can get kinda defensive on the subject. I know Deji and you wouldn't do that and I'm excited to see the final result of the projects you both work on.

Sorry if any comments upset you, wasn't my intent.

Re: about this game

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:55 pm
by DejiNyucu
Yeah, don't worry, we don't plan to go that way :)

There will be kissing and cuddling and real romantic feelings acknowledged by both parties! I guess the "romantic friendship" is a rather complicated subject, but trust us we know what we're doing xD (we're in a romantic friendship ourselves after all, lol )

Re: about this game

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:11 pm
by thesleepykitten
I admit when Maelora mentioned it was used too many times, I was scratching my head because the only romantic friendships I could find were in older literature. XD Now I realize it's the 'hide your lesbians' tropes, and no no no no, I would never do something like that. Nor would Deji.

Both parties will always be clear, or at least be figuring their relationship out together. =) When the GxG routes are tackled in the later games, they'll be romantic.

Re: about this game

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:28 pm
by Maelora
Thank you, Deji and sleepykitten!

The Winter Wolf games are clearly in safe hands!

Re: about this game

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:24 pm
by OtterFace
Super excited for this! I'm in love with the character designs!
Since GxG is already planned, any chance for a BxB route expansion later on? ^_^

Re: about this game

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:26 pm
by jack1974
Don't think since for SH2 there will be BxB already, but anyway we're talking about next year for the GxG, so even if the BxB was available would be 2016 at best :mrgreen:

Re: about this game

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:13 am
by Entertainer13
Just wanted to say that having the artist from the Flower Shop guarantees my purchase. Well, there was a 98% chance from it just being Winter Wolves, but now it's 100%. I loved the art in Flower Shop.

Re: about this game

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:44 am
by jack1974
Yes, she's good 8)

Re: about this game

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:50 am
by MarSel
Here Here!! Well said Kitty ^^