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Foelhe wrote:Out of curiosity, what's the in-character reason Lucius is only a romance for a female character? I know the game needs to be balanced along gender lines, I'm just wondering why an android would care what gender they were romancing.
Depending on how things are set, an android wouldn't be as concerned about gender in and of themselves; after all, if you put their CPU/brain in a breadbox, they wouldn't even look humanoid. Of course, if they spend some time around humanity, they feel a gravitation to a certain 'gender' (if any) fits themselves as well.

However, in this case, it was more along the lines of who was more likely to approach the android for a 'romance'.
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So I guess Alex and Diana have very differents personality; I like the fact that the reason we can't romance him has Alex isn't because Lucius has a "gender", I never really like the "it's not a human man/woman but it look's like one so it's going to act exactly like one for no explore reason" types of tropes.

Now I think about it PS2 has 2 "straight" alien which I think is pretty weird, if you're going to jump the species' barrier to stop at that species' "gender barrier" is kind weird.
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The real reason behind it, was to not go overboard, to avoid making *every char* bisex/asexual and having 500 romances, and release the game in 2020. See what's happening to Loren 2, delayed year after year (and I don't even know WHEN will be out) because I definitely exaggerated with the romances amount (was my choice of course, but so it will be my choice to limit the games' future romances and not always listen to users on this subject, since they'd want to "romance all sprites!" anyway if I ask them :lol:). I think is better to have less romances but to actually get the games out :wink:

In summary I can understand why maybe you'd want to romance Lucius as Alex, as much as I would have liked to romance Charlotte as Alex or Mira as Diana. But sometimes as developer (and player) you need to make compromises :oops:

From the story perspective, this:
Miakoda wrote: However, in this case, it was more along the lines of who was more likely to approach the android for a 'romance'.
makes sense - a romance happens when BOTH parts are interested, not just one. So in this case Diana is more likely to form a sort of bond with Lucius. You'll see better when the romance is written but obviously, in this specific case everything is a bit odd/platonic :twisted:
Exizel wrote: Now I think about it PS2 has 2 "straight" alien which I think is pretty weird, if you're going to jump the species' barrier to stop at that species' "gender barrier" is kind weird.
You refer to Shiler ? Well, there's more beside that. Also Lakadema is an transgender alien and can be romanced by both. Again the reason is because of budget/releasing the game but also from story perspective, if you can't romance Lisa with Shiler doesn't mean that SHE is not interested in Lisa - simply the story doesn't allow that. Like in real life you don't make love/get in love with all your possible partners, real-life stuff happens, etc. OK I hope managed to explain :lol: but basically what Miakoda said.
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jack1974 wrote:You refer to Shiler ? Well, there's more beside that. Also Lakadema is an transgender alien and can be romanced by both. Again the reason is because of budget/releasing the game but also from story perspective, if you can't romance Lisa with Shiler doesn't mean that SHE is not interested in Lisa - simply the story doesn't allow that. Like in real life you don't make love/get in love with all your possible partners, real-life stuff happens, etc. OK I hope managed to explain :lol: but basically what Miakoda said.
I was refering to both her and Avae. I was just curious if this was a story reason or a budget one and I got my answer, I tend to forget that Lakadema is a trangerder and not a woman, probably because I see her has milo's counterpart.
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No problems. Always remember that if was for me I would always try to make customers happy but sometimes I need to stop for a moment and ask myself "wait, this was supposed to be a SMALL GAME, right??" :lol:
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Miakoda wrote:
Foelhe wrote:Out of curiosity, what's the in-character reason Lucius is only a romance for a female character? I know the game needs to be balanced along gender lines, I'm just wondering why an android would care what gender they were romancing.
Depending on how things are set, an android wouldn't be as concerned about gender in and of themselves; after all, if you put their CPU/brain in a breadbox, they wouldn't even look humanoid. Of course, if they spend some time around humanity, they feel a gravitation to a certain 'gender' (if any) fits themselves as well.

However, in this case, it was more along the lines of who was more likely to approach the android for a 'romance'.
Ah, so it's a character thing. Got you, that makes sense.
jack1974 wrote:The real reason behind it, was to not go overboard, to avoid making *every char* bisex/asexual and having 500 romances, and release the game in 2020. See what's happening to Loren 2, delayed year after year (and I don't even know WHEN will be out) because I definitely exaggerated with the romances amount (was my choice of course, but so it will be my choice to limit the games' future romances and not always listen to users on this subject, since they'd want to "romance all sprites!" anyway if I ask them :lol:). I think is better to have less romances but to actually get the games out :wink:
Right, I hope it didn't come off like I thought you should make him bi. I'm a tiny bit disappointed, but I know how many different things you have to balance for the game. Mostly I was just wondering if we'd find out why he'd go for Diana but not Alex.
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Oh, we weren't bothered Foelhe. Exizel did ask a great question, after all :)

And everyone has been really good about understanding choices, limits, etc.
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So... Where is the romance preview?
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Need more, I have only Alex straight romances for now. Once I have all Alex romances will do the usual sneak preview :)
Considering this artist speed probably will be ready in 1-2 weeks max !
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