Here's an example of the type of art found in the most recently "big" gay dating sim. It's certainly not better, but enough of a difference to create a bias against/for a type of art.

What you call gay love is a genre called Bara (meaning rose) and while it is true about what you said distinguish it from Yaoi/Shounen-AI/Boys-love I was always skeptic about it because it is like saying that all strait girls have a same taste and that all gay guys have a same taste.kadakithis wrote:Probably the background does make it more noticeable, also Lord Sandor seems to have really cool detail in his face which can make the other characters look less polished in comparison. Two drawing styles can make the less detailed version stand out. I also think so many people are praising Kamal is because usually Gay Love and Boy Love genres distinguish each other visually by having more buff guys while BL have usually more slender pretty guys, Generally the former is made for gay men while the later is made for straight/Bi women. Also the site was a LGBT one who usually avoid manga art due to the vast majority of yaoi for women only.
Here's an example of the type of art found in the most recently "big" gay dating sim. It's certainly not better, but enough of a difference to create a bias against/for a type of art.
Well part of it is that people feel that they can have more influence on indie developers then on big companies since talking to big companies is like shouting at mountains but indie developers are often right here with us listening to what we have to say and many people misuse that.mastro wrote:Or maybe are just people being ass**les![]()
I've seen a lot of angst against developers lately, in particular indies. Totally gratuitous offenses, I don't get it. Don't let this get at you (or your collaborators).
The writer Umberto Eco a while ago said about internet, that it gave any random idiot on internet the possibility to talk, even if was drunk (something like that if I remember correctly). He was right!
Oh obviously different people have different taste, I just mean it seems like yaoi is usually made with women in mind and Bara is usually made with men in mind and that can create an art preference, especially when one type targets you as an audience rather than another. Most gay guys I know won't touch anything labeled yaoi, because the main character is usually made to be a stand in for women and get many things wrong. Not all of them, obviously, but enough that all I have to do around them is mention seme/uke or yaoi hands to get a collective groan and an immediate rant. (Something, I might add, this game doesn't do, but people always have preconceptions)DarkWolf wrote:
What you call gay love is a genre called Bara (meaning rose) and while it is true about what you said distinguish it from Yaoi/Shounen-AI/Boys-love I was always skeptic about it because it is like saying that all strait girls have a same taste and that all gay guys have a same taste.
"What you call gay love is a genre called Bara (meaning rose) and while it is true about what you said distinguish it from Yaoi/Shounen-AI/Boys-love I was always skeptic about it because it is like saying that all strait girls have a same taste and that all gay guys have a same taste."DarkWolf wrote:kadakithis wrote:Probably the background does make it more noticeable, also Lord Sandor seems to have really cool detail in his face which can make the other characters look less polished in comparison. Two drawing styles can make the less detailed version stand out. I also think so many people are praising Kamal is because usually Gay Love and Boy Love genres distinguish each other visually by having more buff guys while BL have usually more slender pretty guys, Generally the former is made for gay men while the later is made for straight/Bi women. Also the site was a LGBT one who usually avoid manga art due to the vast majority of yaoi for women only.
Here's an example of the type of art found in the most recently "big" gay dating sim. It's certainly not better, but enough of a difference to create a bias against/for a type of art.
Yup, I think the next 2-3 games that are out are definitely in the right direction, at least for the artRyocchi wrote:as Jack said on his blog post, Undead Lily art direction is good, Love Bites is also good, and that is the important thing.
Haha yes! Thank youRyocchi wrote: I'll buy Heirs & Graces nex weekend, but Jack already knows I have a favorite guy in that game so no worries for me. XD
Ryocchi wrote: also Kadakithis wasn't wrong calling it gay love, because that label includes both genres yaoi and bara on it, and this game has elements from both,
Kadakithis wasn't using Gay Love as a term to label all gay genres together but as a replacement term for Bara genre.kadakithis wrote:usually Gay Love and Boy Love genres distinguish each other visually by having more buff guys while BL have usually more slender pretty guys, Generally the former is made for gay men while the later is made for straight/Bi women.