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yayswords
so people will stop playing "the lottery" !

It's still a lottery, but patience is no longer a currency. It's still a roll of the dice what you actually get from the shop, only you only get one shot now. Think that was one reason I didn't wanna buy the game actually. So ironically I've pretty much paid just for beta now :P



I'll stop playing the lottery when the best equipment isn't a lottery reward.



peregrin: It's as it should be. You'll see.
jack1974
Nevermind! I had put a wrong name in the code. I tried again and all seems fine even after the battle, so seems to be working now! Victory! :)


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fabulaparva
Chalassa's bleeding effect doesn't work on Boss anymore, since was too powerful otherwise!

but but but I said I need that for her flashback :( could also just not flag the guy as boss though

Can be done without bleeding - I had acrobatics, no chances and poison dagger in her personal quest. Unless the acrobatics was nerfed already as well, lol.



EDIT: Stats: Constitution 12, Will 19,Strength 12, Skill 14, Agility 20, Arcane 8.
jack1974

It's still a lottery, but patience is no longer a currency. It's still a roll of the dice what you actually get from the shop, only you only get one shot now. Think that was one reason I didn't wanna buy the game actually. So ironically I've pretty much paid just for beta now :P

Well considering all the hours you played, I think even just "buying the beta" was worth your money 8)

I understand what you mean but there's no solution. What should I do? fixed inventories in shops? that would be lame and would make a bit pointless the randomized item generation I coded. The item quest rewards are rather powerful now I think. And now Dingirra's shop have powerful items as well. Of course if you're always looking for "the best item" OK, but you get very decent items now in those shops even without reloading.


Can be done without bleeding - I had acrobatics, no chances and poison dagger in her personal quest. Unless the acrobatics was nerfed already as well, lol.

No acrobatics wasn't nerfed :) When I played it I used poison dagger and potions, but I wasn't playing in NM mode though! I think the Agility stat is very important, since influences speed and in those kinds of combats with only 1 character is very important.
yayswords
What you should do is a topic for Loren 2. But why do you feel the need to remove the ability to replay the casino?



Item quest rewards are indeed powerful but they're not filling even 10% of my slots.



Chalassa's flashback was a close call for me but I didn't remember to reposition her so maybe that'll do it... also, I think the bracers should be renamed when she gets them, since after all they don't grant SUPER speed (10 is high but not godlike) and they don't drain her health. I hope. So maybe Latent/Exorcised/Purified/Dormant Bracers of Bloodspeed or something?
jack1974
What you should do is a topic for Loren 2. But why do you feel the need to remove the ability to replay the casino?

Yeah well I'll see - maybe I can leave it, since people could just save/reload anyway if they want ! and considering how many requests I got for a cheat-mode in Loren... :)
Taleweaver
What you should do is a topic for Loren 2. But why do you feel the need to remove the ability to replay the casino?



Item quest rewards are indeed powerful but they're not filling even 10% of my slots.



Chalassa's flashback was a close call for me but I didn't remember to reposition her so maybe that'll do it... also, I think the bracers should be renamed when she gets them, since after all they don't grant SUPER speed (10 is high but not godlike) and they don't drain her health. I hope. So maybe Latent/Exorcised/Purified/Dormant Bracers of Bloodspeed or something?

The Bracers of Bloodspeed are actually much more powerful. Chalassa's just not desperate enough to activate their "powerup function", which is what her opponent did. So she's "only" getting a +10 Speed from them.
yayswords
And who gave the little bitch the idea that the decision is hers?



Perhaps that should be mentioned? 'cause after all they can be sold so it could be risky to plan for her to mention it further down the road.
Taleweaver
No. Chalassa wouldn't consider it worthy mentioning.
jack1974
Well +10 speed is probably the highest bonus speed of an item in a long time (a bracer for sure). I just generated some random level 30 Rare bracer and their speed bonus was around 4-6 max!

Besides it's also very important for the Paralysis and the other resistances. The way I changed it from the "first version" makes it really good now IMHO!
yayswords
You need to gamble more Jack, my druid has 9 speed bracers. Oh and Riley has them too. Level 9 masterwork. If not for the resistances, the BoB would be a downgrade for them to wear if they could lol.



Not saying we need to buff those bracers though, I just didn't find 10 speed that remarkable, but Mr. Weaver has explained it now. Although... they could have slow resistance ;)
fabulaparva
Just to take a break from all the hardcore stuff I want to say that I absolutely adore the soundtrack. I'm addicted to it.



This. Is. Gorgeous.
renke_
re shop lottery



coudn't you use the rare item shop (forgot the name) for something different? Instead of a normal store screen there's a decision tree for feeding the item generator, usable only once or twice per day.



say the player is looking for a SP regen necklace to complete one char, the selection screens would be something like Jewellery -> Ring -> SP Regeneration - the item generator creates one item with the requested properties and the player can buy it.



other decision tree examples:

Weapon -> Long Range -> Short Bow -> Elemental Damage -> Fire

Armour -> Trousers -> Resistance -> Burning

Weapon -> Melee -> Dagger -> Bonus -> Speed

Armour -> Footware -> Heavy -> Bonus -> Attack



unfortunately most likely impossible to code :)
Taleweaver
Um, these are shops we're talking about here. Not "magical item manufacturers".



You COULD ask the Galanna to make you a custom item, but you couldn't afford their rates ^_^
yayswords
Armor -> Cloth -> Resistance -> Not Weakened
renke_
Um, these are shops we're talking about here. Not "magical item manufacturers".



You COULD ask the Galanna to make you a custom item, but you couldn't afford their rates ^_^

you're touching a sensitive area, we are in the middle of a conflict of objective: on the one hand a consistent story, on the other hand a satisfying RPG system ^^
jack1974
You need to gamble more Jack, my druid has 9 speed bracers. Oh and Riley has them too. Level 9 masterwork. If not for the resistances, the BoB would be a downgrade for them to wear if they could lol.

I bow in front of the MASTER GAMBLER of RPG shop items! :twisted:

(And now in the Steam version I'm going to add the achievement: Master Gambler if people rollback 100 times during the shops!!)


Just to take a break from all the hardcore stuff I want to say that I absolutely adore the soundtrack. I'm addicted to it.



This. Is. Gorgeous.

Thanks, will let the musician know. He's the same that did Bionic Heart 2 soundtrack, so funnily there's same writer, same musician, same coder, same character artist (but a much better colorist!). Luckily SOTW reception so far has been MUCH better 8)



Speaking of unique item... anyone visited the various families palace after you did their quest?? they have super uber unique items (albeit all consumables) for sale! don't tell me that nobody visited them after becoming their best (slave) friends!
fabulaparva
I did. But I was all out of cash and I couldn't buy it. :( And, oh, there was a graphical bug in there, but darn me I don't have a suitable savefile... The graphical bug was that the servant stepped towards the gamer, so that in the end you'd see him really large, but only from neck down. The head was out of frame. And then he stood there for a while while the discussion went on. Made me feel uncomfortable, that guy. :lol:



(For the record, I happen to like BH2. I thought I recognized Krimm's surprised -expression similar to Tanya's but I never knew the composer was the same, too. :P )
jack1974
Thanks, I rechecked the scene and found the wrong sprite :) And about BH2... well you know what I think. Problems apart, everyone of my friend who played it (showed to several other gamedevs too) said that was one of the best VN they played. Not sure why did so bad sales-wise :mrgreen:

/bastard jack mode ON

Probably the mistake was to try making an actual story instead of just showing boobs! (looks at a recently released furry VN on Steam that was top12... ROFL).
renke_
Speaking of unique item... anyone visited the various families palace after you did their quest?? they have super uber unique items (albeit all consumables) for sale! don't tell me that nobody visited them after becoming their best (slave) friends!

yes, and you did see my http://www.winterwolves.net/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3397&start=190#p26140? I think the clerk describes the scent incorrectly ^^