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Franka

I'm joking as usual but it's clear what I mean, if we consider that the most popular thing of Bioware games (both Dragon Age and Mass Effect series) wasn't the gameplay, but the story/romances...seems clear to me what many people want :)


Ahh, I'm not sure you're right about that being the MOST popular thing in Bioware games, for some people sure, but it's not like Bioware games have BAD gameplay, and there's plenty of gameplay discussions going on.



Is the bonus episode for Before the Storm included in the regular game, or do you need a deluxe edition or something?
jack1974
Hehe maybe not the single most popular thing, but on par with gameplay I think!

For the bonus episode I think you need deluxe version or something, I'm almost sure of that (you can buy the upgrade on Steam though). It's very short,there are no real surprises, but was great IMHO.
Franka
Yah, too expensive if that's all I'd be getting the deluxe edition for, sadly.
Sylrissa
I've been playing lots of Monster hunter world with my partner, and also quite enjoying Into the Breach, I loved their previous game FTL, and so far this one has me hooked as well.
jack1974
So I got the new title from the creators of Until Dawn... and sadly it's not up to the predecessor :(

In my case though, the story (what I did so far) wasn't "terrible", and there were some nice characters (Julia is hot! :lol:) but the main problem are the controls that are... UGH!! I requested a refund and it's my 4th title on Steam to be refunded! :(

I reached the point in which you must explore the boat to escape and I was running in circles for 10 minutes with totally bad controls and it was super frustrating so I decided to give up with it.
Franka

So I got the new title from the creators of Until Dawn... and sadly it's not up to the predecessor :(

In my case though, the story (what I did so far) wasn't "terrible", and there were some nice characters (Julia is hot! :lol:) but the main problem are the controls that are... UGH!! I requested a refund and it's my 4th title on Steam to be refunded! :(

I reached the point in which you must explore the boat to escape and I was running in circles for 10 minutes with totally bad controls and it was super frustrating so I decided to give up with it.


Along with other things I've heard, I might just pass on this. At the very least I'll be waiting for a huge discount. Shame, because Until Dawn was such an amazing game (I replayed it maybe half a year ago, it's still great).
jack1974
Yes indeed! I bought this one instantly, but then it was really one of the few times when I took advantage of Steam refund, and didn't happen often :(

Sometimes I really don't get AAA devs. I mean, why make such a TERRIBLE control system!? almost fixed camera from weird angles, just walking from a room to another was a huge pain in the ass and it didn't add anything.

A pity because as I said, both story and character were good, that wasn't an issue for me (of course I don't know the whole story since I didn't finish it).

But Until Dawn was a 10 for me, this one is barely a 5 :(
Franka
Yesterday I visited a friend of mine who had Man of Medan, and we played through it in an afternoon (yeah, that's all it took). Just sharing a controller for different characters, not true coop.



You weren't kidding about the camera angles and the controls. Yikes! Not helping that all the corridors in the ship looked identical, we often found ourselves walking back the way we came...



Bad story, I guessed the "twist" almost immediately (no spoiler though), didn't like any of the characters. The most fun we had was predicting the jump scares and reading the lines in funny voices.



In the end, all 5 of our main characters survived! I couldn't believe it, considering how easy it was for people to die in Until Dawn. Looking over the secret list, we were missing several, but thought we'd been pretty thorough. Found a guide online, and it turns out there's a handful of secrets that can only be found by playing online coop. That's the worst thing I've ever heard, scenes simply cut out of single player, so you can't possibly unlock everything unless you play online.



There's no way in hell I'm getting this game for myself, I punched that ignore button hard when I got home.
jack1974
Haha wow. I am glad I requested the refund then, since your full experience seemed even worse.

Sad thing is that their previous game is not available on PC, so maybe now they'll erroneously think that "PC is not good for those kind of games". I really hope not, because I'd like to see more games like that, done better of course :)
Franka
Check out the competition: https://store.steampowered.com/app/849740/Love_Esquire__RPGDating_SimVisual_Novel/



Fully voiced, animated, stat raising, location map, light RPG system, 5 love interests, and so many events I'm not even going to try to guess the word count.



Right now there's a good amount of bugs, but once these get squashed, this one will rank among my favorite visual novels.



These are also the guys who made https://store.steampowered.com/app/460430/The_Letter__Horror_Visual_Novel/, which was quite amazing as well.
jack1974
Ah yes I saw that one! Though not really competition... that company probably has at least 10 full time employees and a slightly higher budged than my games!! :lol:

(I mean of course it's a game similar to mine but I can't ever hope to compete with such levels!)
Franka
Well, competition for the same customers, if not a direct competition of overall quality. They did also run a Kickstarter to fund the game, which I imagine was necessary for the full voice acting (SO MANY LINES!).



Still, that's no guarantee that the final game will turn out so amazing, and they're quickly getting rid of bugs too. In any case, a fantastic OEVN! I recommend.
SerTabris
Possibly not all of the same customers, either: I looked at it and concluded that you couldn't play as a woman so I wasn't interested. (There are enough visual novels out there that have F/F options that I don't tend to consider romance ones that don't without a very strong recommendation.)
Jaeger
I wanted to play a visual novel as change of pace, and https://pillowfight.itch.io/ghosts-of-miami, caught my eye. The colorful art is deceptive, since the story has some dark themes, with a few romance options to add some levity. I enjoyed the first play through, but replaying can be a chore due to the lack of QoL features like multiple save slots and and ability fast forward previously read text. However, due to stubbornness on my part, I played through all romance routes and got the true ending.
Franka
I remember Ghosts of Miami as pretty cute, darker than expected and having poor quality of life implementation. It has yuri romance though, so big plus there. :lol:
jack1974
When in doubt, just add yuri (tm) :mrgreen:
jack1974
I am NOT playing this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/817840/Max_Gentlemen_Sexy_Business/

but only because I don't have time, but it's a perfect example of what I mean when I say that I want to mix VN with gameplay stuff. Though in this case I suspect it's more dating sim and the texts amounts are small. Eventually I'll get to play it but just looking at the trailer made me curious.
Franka

I am NOT playing this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/817840/Max_Gentlemen_Sexy_Business/

but only because I don't have time, but it's a perfect example of what I mean when I say that I want to mix VN with gameplay stuff. Though in this case I suspect it's more dating sim and the texts amounts are small. Eventually I'll get to play it but just looking at the trailer made me curious.


I kickstarted it, I will be playing at some point.
Franka
Playing https://store.steampowered.com/app/913740/WORLD_OF_HORROR/. If you want to do retro style graphics, this works really well for a horror game.



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jack1974
Yes I saw that! Looks really interesting, and I agree that 1-bit art works well. Maybe even 8-bit art would work :D